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Old Apr 30, 2009, 07:21 PM // 19:21   #1
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Default Heroes Ascent quest... again?

Anyone else confused that we have another HA zaishen quest, only two days from the last one? They haven't done Fort Aspenwood yet, or even just reset so it goes back to GvG. I just find it strange that its already HA because we JUST had one.

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Also, just a side note... what else CAN they do for the PvP portion? They've covered every arena in the battle isles as well as AB and JQ. What I would REALLY like to see is one of the PvE-PvP arenas being the daily quest. Actually bringing players to the PvP place adjacent to Kamadan, or Ascalon Arena and the other ones. Although this would single out those who only own the PvP portion of the game, tough love to them. I find low-level PvP quite intresting because it's alot more difficult and there is more variety (current RA meta = anti-everything, All casters have some kind of block skill/stance, If your a hexer odds are the other team has PnH, if your a bsurge odds are the sin has assasins remedy, etc...). The nice part about the level 10-15 PvP is that your armor really comes into play, unlike PvP where you can just PvXwiki your build and your armor. Also, playing without elites creates a whole new challenege. No more Palm Strikers, no more WoH monks, no more WE or PR warrs, no Mel Shot. I would personally really enjoy them to create a Zaishen Challenge quest pertaining to these areas.

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Sum up of wall of text and such here:
Heroes Ascent again? 2 days ago we had it like omfgwtfgay.
part 2:
Low-level arena's ftw

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purpose of this thread: why they making us play tombz? and would you /sign a low-level arena quest.

Thats all folks!
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Old Apr 30, 2009, 07:25 PM // 19:25   #2
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All this means is that quest selection is random, albeit there is probably some failsafe against running the same quest 2 days in a row.
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Old Apr 30, 2009, 07:34 PM // 19:34   #3
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I kinda like it. Now my toon has this ZQuest twice in her log, so I'll only have to win two matches for 2*9k faction.

Not that I ever will win 2 matches in HA, but you get the idea.
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Old Apr 30, 2009, 07:50 PM // 19:50   #4
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I kinda like it. Now my toon has this ZQuest twice in her log, so I'll only have to win two matches for 2*9k faction.

Not that I ever will win 2 matches in HA, but you get the idea.
It' not too hard. Sooner or later you run into a team that doesn't use gimmicks and then you win.
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Old Apr 30, 2009, 07:54 PM // 19:54   #5
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There arent many pvp modes to choose from
pve missions and bosses, hundreds.
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Old Apr 30, 2009, 07:56 PM // 19:56   #6
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PvP modes that can be cycled

HA
TA
RA
GvG
HB
AB
Aspen
Quarry

And if they are really looking for excuses, Zaishen Challenges.

There is AT LEAST ONE for each day of the week.
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Old Apr 30, 2009, 08:13 PM // 20:13   #7
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Sorry but what?

18k Faction for 2 wins is FTW. I dunno why anyone would complain about that. Also there is only so many PvP quests that can be done and frankly i'm thankful for this. It means that better ones, i.e the proper pvp quests (HA, GvG, TA) come around faster and really the HA quest is a god send for HA, previously it was dying hard, now it's up to 6 districts at least 1 day every week. I don't even HA much anymore but it's still nice to see such a revitalization.

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Old Apr 30, 2009, 08:27 PM // 20:27   #8
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Sorry but what?

18k Faction for 2 wins is FTW. I dunno why anyone would complain about that. Also there is only so many PvP quests that can be done and frankly i'm thankful for this. It means that better ones, i.e the proper pvp quests (HA, GvG, TA) come around faster and really the HA quest is a god send for HA, previously it was dying hard, now it's up to 6 districts at least 1 day every week. I don't even HA much anymore but it's still nice to see such a revitalization.
I think the point is here would be for it to cycle around all PvP modes so anyone can get the chance to access a PvP quest once in a while (and really, AB is even more accessible than RA)
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Old Apr 30, 2009, 08:29 PM // 20:29   #9
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u can do so much more with pvp? u can change the quests a lil bit, what im gonna say now is totally random. but objective: get a kill streak of 2, that kinda things, would be more fun than keep winning 15 matches in RA,
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Old Apr 30, 2009, 08:47 PM // 20:47   #10
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Well I might have to go and try out that HA after all. I'm sure the regulars there are ready for another newbie with a bad build
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Old Apr 30, 2009, 09:23 PM // 21:23   #11
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I'm planning on waiting for the RA challenge to come around, and get that one all my toons with the one they have now. I spend one evening finishing those, save up so there's 3x that quest, complete it, and I get tons of faction.

Now all that's left is to add something new and rare to the Zaishen Chest to bump up the price. Everlasting Summoning Stones Please!
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Old Apr 30, 2009, 09:29 PM // 21:29   #12
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All this means is that quest selection is random, albeit there is probably some failsafe against running the same quest 2 days in a row.
Exactly.
When they added in the z-quests, they added in the data for probably several hundred different z-quests and have the system change it randomly by itself (rather then requiring a.net to change the quests manually each day, which would inevitably lead to the update being late some days).
Random means random, which means something can repeat before FA comes around.
And as Sarevok said, there are only so many PvP formats to go around.

Frankly, I like it. I had no interest in doing the HA quest before. But now that I was able to do 2 at once, I was all over it. I can't wait till the RA quest gets doubled up.

Edit: I agree they could come up with more original kind of quests for PvP. "Win a HA match without a monk primary on your team," etc. but I think the current system is fine for now (maybe they will add in more variation later)
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Old Apr 30, 2009, 11:16 PM // 23:16   #13
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I think it's a good idea. If people want to try and get involved in GvG/HA, there is a steeper learning curve, and having the quests repeat these more often may increase the number of guilds/alliances/players in general trying to improve in those areas. That, and double rewards.

I think it's good.
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Old Apr 30, 2009, 11:29 PM // 23:29   #14
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I think it's a good idea. If people want to try and get involved in GvG/HA, there is a steeper learning curve, and having the quests repeat these more often may increase the number of guilds/alliances/players in general trying to improve in those areas. That, and double rewards.

I think it's good.
Can't complain about more people in GvG/Ha....
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Old Apr 30, 2009, 11:45 PM // 23:45   #15
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I was also expecting Aspenwood today. Oh well. Maybe I'll get around to complaining if we start to see streaks of arenas pop-up, or if a certain format doesn't come around for a while.
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Old Apr 30, 2009, 11:58 PM // 23:58   #16
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Ya I was hoping for FA too...
I refuse to do HA, getting sick of being asked to flash my R8 title for every single group, having to wait for an hour fine tuning builds, then getting kicked the moment a person with an R9 and the same class comes along.
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Old Apr 30, 2009, 11:59 PM // 23:59   #17
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PvE has 2 quests, PvP has 1. If you have AB or a competetive mission again then it's like 3 PvE quests. But it's random, and daily. Just accept it.
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Old May 01, 2009, 12:02 AM // 00:02   #18
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WOW!

9K is an absolute steal! Got it a few times even by being bad and playing with other bad players.
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Old May 01, 2009, 12:04 AM // 00:04   #19
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Don't mind more HA. Should be a permanent HA quest and the daily pvp quest cycles through the other modes.

Low level arena's sound interesting, but how many people have characters that can enter? All my guys and gals are lvl20, and there's no way I'm deleting one just to do low level arena's for a day...
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Old May 01, 2009, 06:59 AM // 06:59   #20
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Ya I was hoping for FA too...
I refuse to do HA, getting sick of being asked to flash my R8 title for every single group, having to wait for an hour fine tuning builds, then getting kicked the moment a person with an R9 and the same class comes along.
How'd you think I feel, I only got r3 because I couldn't stomach the elitism that goes on in there.
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